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Dom Robinson reviews

Creative Encore Dxr3 12x DVD-ROM

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Creative

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  • Price: £229.99
  • System requirements :
    • Windows 95/98/NT4
    • Pentium 166Mhz
    • 32Mb RAM
    • Available PCI slot
    • SVGA graphics adaptor with 2Mb RAM (min.res. 640x480)
    • Soundblaster or other Windows-compatible soundcard
    • Speakers or headphones
  • N.B. This product was reviewed in 2000 and has since been superceded. Please check www.europe.creative.com for the latest products available

    I've been having a love affair over the past two years or so, but it's not a secret one. In fact, my fiancee knows all about it. It began when I first discovered the world of DVD.

    When I first bought a Dxr2 decoder card with the Creative DVD-ROM drive, at around £225 it was considerably cheaper than the standalone models on the shelf and with my TV in close enough distance to the PC, linking to the big screen wasn't a problem. Since moving house, the TV is a couple of feet further away, but a male-female joining lead solved the problem.

    What hit me first, apart from the stunning pictures produced, was when Home Cinema Choice's gadget guru Bob Tomalski gave the product a glowing review. There was me originally thinking that a PC item for a third of the price of some players around at the time couldn't hope to match their quality, when it was found to score higher than some of those very standalones.

    Hence, I had high hopes for the Dxr3, although I had heard over the past few months that the TV-out quality wasn't as good, but a phone call to Creative themselves confirmed that the latest drivers at the time solved any such problems. Now I have experienced this PC DVD setup for myself, their words were a falsehood.


    So, I've said how good the Dxr2 is, but what are the advantages with the Dxr3? First, the software includes support for DTS: Digital Theatre Sound. It's impressive and in some cases sounds more meaty, but I have very few DVDs with DTS compared to those I have which aren't Region 2 (see later for why this is important) and for some reason it didn't play the DTS bonus track on the Region 2 Eagles: Hell Freezes Over.

    The DVD drive is a 12-speed one, used for transferring DVD-ROM material not showing DVD films at any faster than standard single speed, so if you plan to install many programs from DVD-ROMs (of which there aren't very many yet), consider this an advantage over the 5-speed DVD-ROM drive which accompanied the Dxr2 card.

    Two DVDs themselves are also included - the IMAX film Super Speedway and a DVD-ROM edition of Outcast, which includes plenty of behind-the-scenes-type info about the game.


    And now the problems...

    • 1. Firstly and probably most importantly, no official firmware update has been released to allow region-free playback. For the uninitiated, this is a software patch that updates the drive and stops it complaining every time you, for example, put in an American DVD instead of the British ones you're more used to buying.

      When you install the kit in the first place, it asks you for a region and this can only be changed a further four times. After that you're stuck with it. So, the answer would normally be to ignore than and pay a visit to www.visualdomain.net, where Remote Selector can be downloaded and instructed to select a particular region or disable the region check altogether!

    • 2. After pausing or moving to another chapter, the picture stutters three times (sound is fine though) before carrying on as normal. It occasionally does this at other times for no reason. I can understand it happening while I'm in DOS (yes, I use an antequated email program but prefer it to anything in Windows), but have had no such problems when using Windows programs such as Wordperfect 6.1 at the same time with the Dxr2. When using the Dxr3, yes there are problems.

    • 3. The card is slow to process things when skipping through several chapters at a time.

    • 4. Pressing stop takes half-a-second to stop rather than instantly like the Dxr2,

    • 5. Moving between menus is a now a pain with this. I use the keyboard as a rule and when changing menus, it seems to make the system 'Alt-TAB' away to something else so I can't access the menu functions and need to 'Alt-TAB' back again. Why?! This never happened with the Dxr2. A workaround is to use the aforementioned Remote Selector from www.visualdomain.net.

    • 6. Setting the sound was initially problematic. For both the Dxr2 and Dxr3 decoder cards there is an 'advanced' tab, but only in the latter is it highlighted and there I had to select "AC3" for Dolby Digital sound, but it was something I had to find out for myself.

    • 7. Unlike the Dxr2, you can't see the DVD picture window on both the PC and the TV at the same time. Creative's online support confirmed this but offered no reason why this should be the case.

    • 8. For some inexplicable reason, I heard no main menu sound in some cases that I tried. One such DVD, for example, was Made in Britain.


    Many thanks to Erwin van den Berg from www.visualdomain.net who answers some of the above questions with technical info that proves why the Dxr3 is a sub-standard piece of kit compared to its older brother:

    • 1. DTS: The Dxr2 can also output DTS on the spdif, only Creative refuses to upgrade the Dxr2 software to allow this. Their argument that the Dxr2 was made before DTS came to dvd is bogus.

      Alas, this doesn't mean that you can use Dxr3 software with the Dxr2 card to solve the problem.

    • 2. The Dxr3 is a RealMagic Hollywood+ as you probably know, and it is a much cheaper board than the Dxr2 due to intergration of chips. The reason for Creative to upgrade is simply one of production costs. However, the Hollywood+ does less processing in the decoder and leans thus more on the CPU. Sound decoding for instance is done on the CPU. Also the H+ has only 1 ramdac, so you can only have vga output OR tv output since it is handled in the same chip. The Dxr2 has a lot of chips, each with their own function.

      The C-Cube Ziva decrypts and decodes the stream (audio and video) and outputs a CCIRR 601 video stream to both the tv encoder and the vga 'linedoubler' (the so called Dxr2, Dynamic eXtented Resolution, which converts interlaced signal to progressive and thus 'doubles' the number of lines) and outputs the audio directly via i2s to the onboard dac and spdif transmitter. So the Dxr2 handles almost all dvd processing, the cpu only has to navigate and deliver the data from the dvd to the Dxr2 board. The name 'Dxr3' has nothing to do with line tripling.

    • 3. The components used on the Dxr2 are really first class (maybe even 'high-end'), like the Burr-Brown DAC (also used in the most expensive Denon processors) and Brooktree tv encoder (with 10bits processing in a time that all 'normal' dvd player only used 8 or 9 bits per color).

      This also means that the board is probably pretty expensive. The Dxr2 is based on a reference board made by Auravision, the makers of the VxP524 (Dxr2) chip. They only changed the Analog Devices ADV7175 tv encoder for the Brooktree one. Nice detail is that the ADV7175 is used on the H+ and thus on the Dxr3 (although some people claim there board uses a ADV7170 or even the brooktree).

      The only real problem with the Dxr2 is the AuraVision AnP82 Analog vga overlay chip, which is really crap. So the Dxr2 is unbeatable for tv and analog audio, the Dxr3 is better for use on a PC monitor (although I would recommend a software player like PowerDVD if your PC is fast enough (P2 300). I really do not understand people upgrading from a Dxr2 to a Dxr3 if they use it on tv. Also upgrading from a 2x to 5x/6x/8x/10x/12x drive is useless, DVD video is 1x !

      It's simply a budget board at a premium price! As a result, the marketing people couldn't name it the Dxr1, because nobody would buy it so they pretended that it is a better board, so they could even ask a higher price and make much more profit.


    Overall, I'm baffled. Why does a next-generation product have so many things changed for the worse? It's not necessary and is really annoying. There's a thick manual included but it's largely unhelpful past installation as it just details the same thing in a million languages.

    Hence, for the time being and until the decoder software problems and the lack of region-free playback in the drive can be resolved, I shall be sticking with my original Dxr2 card and 5-speed drive setup and I'd advise everyone to plump for a Dxr2 and never a Dxr3.

    And yes, I did try the latest drivers (this review was placed online on October 2nd, 2000 and the beta drivers online were from June 2000) but to no avail.

    This product is also rather overpriced now. As I mentioned earlier, the price of my original setup was very competitive compared to the stand-alone market. These days with the age of the easily-made-region-free Wharfdale 750 player which only costs a penny under £180, sub-£100 players on the way and decent PC DVD decoder cards and drives available for around £60 apiece... well, you do the math.

    And don't forget the Playstation 2, due out on November 24th, seemingly with improved decoding ability to rival dedicated DVD players. Until I can get hold of one of those, I'll have to stick with a PC DVD variant - for one reason I've run out of plug sockets!

    OVERALL

    Review copyright © Dominic Robinson, 2000.

    This product was tested on a PC with the following spec:
    Intel PIII 600Mhz, 128Mb RAM (133 Mhz), Voodoo 3 3000 AGP, Soundblaster Live! 1024, attached to a Sony STR-DB930 Dolby Digital/DTS amplifier

    For more information, please visit the European Creative website

    Or call Creative on 0118 934 4322.

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    DVDs reviewed by the editor are watched on a Panasonic TXW32R4 32" widescreen TV connected to either a Creative Dxr2 DVD-ROM player or Microsoft Xbox and played through a Sony STR-DB930 amplifier.

    PC games reviewed by the editor are on:

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